Mythic decides to allow transfers off of PT :(

http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=987

How sad. I was really hoping their announcement would be for opening PT to transfers from other servers. I won't be moving to Iron Rock or Badlands of course, as I dig playing with the family. I am concerned about how many folks will jump ship and what will be left for us to play with. That and whether new blood will come to PT now that it's had transfers away.

Hopefully this works out in our favor somehow. :)

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For me, this announcement stinks as well. Here's how I stand: No matter what I stay with this family. PT will be really empty with folks leaving; sure that leaves us with a possibility with easier IC sieges (if enough destruction leave), but don't expect scenarios in lower tiers ever again. I wouldn't be against having the family moving to Badlands; I understand Daghdre probably won't be in favor of it, but I'm just worried about the ghost town that PT has the potential to become. If we stay, it'll probably be us (the family) and whatever destruction stays. link to warhammer PT transfer thread Iron Rock is just a copy of our server, Destruction just creaming Order. Badlands has some of that, but not as much. Plus the WP hero, GFury is on Badlands. :P

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I don't like this decision either. I am sure a lot of do not like it. Before any decision is made about transfering off this server we will need to find out a few things, such as where is most of Order on this server going to go, will we be able to transfer the alliances and guilds as well. We will also need to see where many of the families in the Tuatha decide to go. There is a lot for us to consider and it will take some time. No matter what the decision is I am staying with this family

For what it's worth, I've been playing on both Iron Rock and Gorfang quite a bit lately (unfortunately for me I've got some low level destro alts on Iron Rock and and low level Order alts on Gorfang). Iron Rock seems to be an okay server, but it has a fair amount of horrific names. Gorfang seems to be a bit better. The people are okay....and lots of noobs at the lower levels to make you feel like a god. :) I have not played on Badlands, so I cannot comment on the names or people there.

I'll be staying with the family as well. I have my original Destro toons from headstart/launch on Iron Rock. This will be my 4th server move since the game started. Ulthuan - Redeye Mountian, Volkmar(?), then Iron Rock for my bad guys. While I'm greatly disappointed with Mythic right now, I'm not sure what else they could do. Craythur

I'm rather happy that Mythic is finally offering the transfers. Our population has suffered way too long. However, I know a lot of people don't want a move, be it for RP reasons, or having toons on the destination servers. Fortunately for me, this time, I don't have toons on the destination servers (I had T4 Destro on PT when we moved from Ostermark). As much as some people won't want to move, I don't think staying will be a viable option. Too many people will leave and scenarios will be non-existent, and there will be virtually no one to play with, or fight against. I am curious as to where everyone else wants to go though. I want to keep our alliance, and extended family together.

Sad news indeed. PT will be bled dry now and change is upon us. Just asking that any major decisions will be published so I know where the people that resurrect me will be........ I am sticking with the family, ya'll been good to me. Ruuta

For me I like the idea to a point. I just don't see PT ever growing again. I would like to see us move off the server to one that has a good pop on it. It would be nice to see SC's popping for all Tiers and to have a full 3 WB + raid on guild nights. I don't think anyone on PT has much of a choice to stay really, cause if 1/3 or more leave PT it will be even more dead then it is now. I agree with Don that we need to check with other order guilds to see where they might go.

Well Iron Legion has a home with the Gaiscoich family and I don't plan on breaking that up. Also I got to many cool badges to give up.

Bah! The Changer of Ways is at it again... Well as for me I've cast my lot with the lot in with the family. Wherever the Tuatha goes I go. I'll pack my coals in a censer if need be or settle myself down into a quaint little mansion somewhere on the Reik. After I burnt the lot out of the miscreants roaming around of course.

Just saw this on the PT thread: For obvious reasons, we could not redirect New Trials to a speciality server. New players, especially those who are newer to MMORPG's could be easily confused or put off by special rulesets. Giving a renown/xp bonus to these communities may have stimulated a small uptick in activity, however such bonuses in the past haven't had much of a long term effect unless they are coupled with a fairly major event, such as free transfers. We do not offer these free transfers lightly, nor are we happy that we are effectively discontinuing our RP and ORvR servers, however the overall greater good is what we ultimately had to take into account. Andy Belford Community Coordinator Mythic Entertainment NOTICE "that we are effectively discontinuing our RP and ORvR servers" So it looks like we might be moving anyway.

I've been through enough of these server transfers to know that Mythic isn't giving you a choice as to whether you stay or go, only which servers you can go to. PT will be closed, period. :( As long as there are no character conflicts (which I am pretty sure there are not) Shadows Deep will move with the Family. Dahbit

I'm sure PCo will move as one. No one is sure where to just yet though.

At this point we are not making a quick decision. I am in contact with Order members from both servers we have the option to move to. However our choice is largely in the hands of where certain people want to move to. I am holding a meeting on the Gaiscioch Ventrilo to discuss where we will be moving to and Hopefully most of the Tuatha will join us there as well. I would hate to see all this work we have put together go down the drain and want to try to keep as many of us together as possible. This transition will be the most challenging opponent we face. Please attend the meeting on Sunday at 4PM PST/7PM EST. We really need to have everyone on the same page. Foghladha

So I refound the warhammer stat site I discovered a while ago to see what Ironrock and Badlands looked like for stats. Saddly it seems they just did server mantince recently so they lost stats for bit but its still useful. The site is here http://pauser.com/warhammer/ and you have to go under "Wink's war stats" or "Wink's pop monitor." I was looking at the Alliance activity for both order and destro. It says that the two most active alliances out of Iron Rock and Badlands are on Badlands. It ranked the highest for both order and desto guilds, the Destro Alliance being "Retribution Alliance" and the order Alliance being "WAR Live on" It might be something to look at to see just how active people are, of course that doesnt say alot about the people themselves, course that is if we even moved at all. Here is the ACTIVE population stats for both servers this past week.(remember maintance might hurt the stats) It only records Level 40 characters stats but it covers rr 1-80 for all level 40. Badlands Order 3859 Destro 4175 (316 in Destro's favor) Iron Rock Order 3199 Destro 3985 (786 in Destro's favor) By that stat Badlands is more balanced then Iron Rock, but once again it says nothing about the people on those servers. Just for the heck of it here is PT's server population stats Phoneix Throne Order 1422 Destro 1607 (185 in Destro's favor)

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From what I've read and seen, by playing on the servers rather briefly, Iron Rock is Destro heavy, but has a large population. Badlands seems more balanced, but has a lower population than IR.

I figured they would do this rather than try to save it! After the poor decision on trial accounts was made in not including PT the writing was on the wall. Given the population in T1-3; They had to do something or PT would die a slow death. After reading the war heald news I have concluded that this server will be dead by Christmas. Where are we going? They picked 2 servers I have no toons on and have low population as well? perhaps we should go over and look into these more. I think they are trying to save these two servers by the transfer. here is a link to a pop monotir for the war servers http://pauser.com/warhammer/popmon/popmon.html

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Whereever the family goes, I go. However, this DOES present a dilemma for me. I've been left in charge of Sanctus Immortalis, a basically dead guild. I'm the only truly active player. I've been thinking about this all evening and I've decided the following: 1) I'll be transferring Leadership of SI to my character Docside (a KotBS that I dont play in RvR for personal playstyle reasons). And transfering that character w/guild attached to the destination server. (I just cant leave a rank 31 guild behind...besides think of all the vault space it gives me....hehe). 2) I'd like to join one of the alliance guilds when I reach the new server with my toons. I've had good times with many of you, but several really stand out as homes within a home that I'd like to be in. Gaiscioch, of course, but also Iron Legion or Armyn ab Treanid really stand out as containing people that I've become fond of. I'm hoping one of those three would offer me a home for my myriad of alts!!! The impending closing of PT saddens me because I truly love roleplaying on occasion. But the opportunity to actually be able to find action in T2 or T3 (outside of a Family event), and the opportunity to actually see a scenario outside of T4 excite me. Oh and grand scale RvR battles!!! I think I'm more excited than anything else.

Where the Tuatha go, I go. My name ain't a variant of Brigid for nuthin'. ;) Y'all have been good to me, maybe better than I deserve. I'll install Vent and be at the meeting. Hopefully.

Alarin Here from Mintai. We will go with the family as well. I will try to attend Sunday.