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Sekkerhund
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Posted On: 10/15/2015 at 02:00 AM
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This is a preliminary posting, that I hope to follow up (soon) with a more detailed outline for a community multi-gaming project that I've been working out details on, for the last several years.

To keep this brief, I've been somewhat active with SWTOR for quite some time, but with the new Star Wars movie hype and new SWTOR expansion, I'm going to resume a project that I started ~4 years ago.  It came to my attention that we have some family activity on The Ebon Hawk server, but no real cohesive type of gathering, so I decided to transfer my primary characters (its cheap, only 90 credits) and set up shop there.

I've created two guilds on The Ebon Hawk server:  Kappwulfas (Wolves of Courage) for Galactic Republic and Waelwulfas (Wolves of Slaughter) for Sith Empire.  My intention is to make these available as a structured option (note "structured") for GSCH members to stay together as a community (again, I will follow up with a more detailed explanation at a later time).

Details to note:

  • Flagships are in the plans (I'm creating enough alt accounts to cover the 12 members needed to get a guild bank and start things off)
  • There will be "structure" available for those that desire something more than a casual, chat room guild.
  • This is my own brand and will not be officially connected to Gaiscioch.  I have not yet discussed my plans with Fog, so he is not aware of, nor blessed my project. (again, I will follow up at a later date with more details)
  • That being said... Your rank will mirror your official GSCH ranking.  That means that your rank progress in the official GSCH community will count towards my project (important note: but not vice-versa).

This is just a part of a much larger multi-gaming project that I have been planning, so its just a "baby step" for now, but I hope to resolve an issue of keeping our family together for these "side games", of which I happen to not only play, but also already have a skeleton guild structure in place, for many of these games.

That's all I have for now, feel free to contact me if you'd like to be a part of my project, starting with SWTOR.

 

(edit)

Pending my "master plan" post, here's a brief summary:

  • I am trying to organize GSCH family players for our various "side games" under a consolidated structure.
  • The goal is to make it easier for family members to find each other in our non-Chapter games.
  • There has always been a need, and I've found that its increasing as more and more MMO games pop up. 
  • While we've tried some things in the past (Saighdear), I am hoping to build on the successes that we had and remove the points of failures
  • The goal is for this community project to be similar in basic concept to the old "Saighdear project", but its using my brand and will be parallel to GSCH, not connected (GSCH brand protections).

This will require baby steps, and step #1 for me is to open a door and place out a welcome mat, place a candle in the window, peach pie in the oven, etc. etc.

 

(edit)

I'm going to be in Gamevox this week, but if folks don't mind adding several toons to their friend list, here they are (can copy paste names, a couple use unicode letters)

Sith:

  • Vinsek
  • Kolkot
  • Alelesa
  • Mortisdân  (â = alt+0226)

Republic:

  • Ayya'vrei
  • Nelissa
  • Kocco
  • Soneco

 

(edit)

Folks can usually find me in Gamevox during evenings (Pacific time).  Its honestly the easiest way to get in touch with me.

Last Edited on: 11/28/2015 at 06:36 PM
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Replied On: 10/15/2015 at 09:32 PM PDT

Hey Sekk, glad to hear this.  I've wanted to get back into SW:TOR for awhile, but just haven't had the time - and probably won't until after the 1st of the year - with moving across town this month, then family stuff throughout Nov/Dec it is a little hectic in my life right now. 

I was in early beta of SW:TOR and played for a few months after release - I just ran out of content after about 6 months and went on to other things.  I am actually glad it is going good - I love the SW's universe and have since the original films which we took our son to when he was in grade school.  That might be why I have such an attachment to it - he still loves it and he's 40+ now.  He still has a collection of early figures - in the packages and now his son loves SW's... the things we pass down and the fond memories...

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Replied On: 10/16/2015 at 08:19 PM PDT
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I'm going to commit to SWTOR for the long-term (sub-wise), though it would be nice if they'd offer a Lifetime sub package.  They have improved the game a lot in the last year or so (there's another major xpac, featuring a huge storyline revamp, coming @ end of this month) and I keep swearing that I'm going to play it more, but I always procrastinate and get distracted by another shiny, so kinda forcing myself to make time for it.

 

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Replied On: 10/16/2015 at 08:43 PM PDT

Thanks for the info, that means the new Xpac will be there when I finally make it back after the beginning of the year.  Might try and talk my grandson into playing it - we'll see.

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Wish I had some decent details to give, but all I know is that its going to be a huge revamp of the story and companions, plus some new ground-breaking content.  I suppose that I probably should really read up on it, but I kinda dislike reading about coming game changes, I can't really connect with what I read, I have to have hands-on to understand well.

Its funny, a couple of years ago, I kinda counted this game out of ... well, the MMO game, but then EA made some internal changes to their corporate structure and then (surprisingly) started putting time, money and effort into making SWTOR a better game.  I'm wondering if Disney had anything to do with it, because SWTOR's fate turned around after Disney acquired all of the Lucas properties, especially Lucas Arts, which affects the gaming IPs.

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Sekkerhund,

I'm very excited to hear this news! I have been a subscriber with SW:TOR since my days of closed beta. I admit I'm a pretty casual player due to college, work and family schedules, but assure you I at least login and play several times during the week/weekends. Ironically all 9 of my toons are on Ebon Hawk and available to help setup your guilds if necessary.

What would be the best way to contact you in game? For myself just in-game email Eragwar(Emp Main) or Engwar(Rep Main) and I'll reply quickly. Thanks  

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Replied On: 10/17/2015 at 10:33 AM PDT
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I have an active subscription to SWTOR and would be interested in participating too.  Vherek is my Sith Toon and Talaeryn is my Republic toon.  Looking forward to it!

 

 

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Replied On: 10/17/2015 at 04:55 PM PDT
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I am in a pretty active guild on The Ebon Hawk server. Our guild has had a rule about having to know someone in the guild personally, by real name, but we've discussed loosening that up as only about 18 of our original 60 players are still active on the Repub side (and only bout 10 on the Imp side). We've got a Yavin stronghold, and have considered a guild ship in the future.

 

I have been following the info on the update in detail. There is some serious controversy over the planned crafting changes, but those would only affect folks with high level crafting skills.

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Replied On: 10/17/2015 at 08:08 PM PDT

ignore this post it was made in error



» Edited on: 2015-10-18 20:32:20

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I'd rather that folks not use my threads to recruit for your current guilds.  I realize that your guilds might need players, and that's understandable, but (sorry to be blunt here)... they're not GSCH family.  I'm trying to gather and collect family members, not confuse and scatter them.

To repost a line from my LOTRO thread: "These aren't really games that we have family members "actively" playing, but I don't really care about that right now.  My priority is trying to to give the inactive/semi-active folks a choice to find a common home with other family members, and then we can tackle the task of arranging "play dates" with other family members, afterwards."

 

Pending my "master plan" post, here's a brief summary:

  • I am trying to organize GSCH family players for our various "side games" under a consolidated structure.
  • The goal is to make it easier for family members to find each other in our non-Chapter games.
  • There has always been a need, and I've found that its increasing as more and more MMO games pop up. 
  • While we've tried some things in the past (Saighdear), I am hoping to build on the successes that we had and remove the points of failures
  • The goal is for this community project to be similar in basic concept to the old "Saighdear project", but its using my brand and will be parallel to GSCH, not connected (GSCH brand protections).

This will require baby steps, and step #1 for me is to open a door and place out a welcome mat, place a candle in the window, peach pie in the oven, etc. etc.

 

Engwar, Vherek:  I'll contact you guys via mails in game.  I'm rusty about using the UI and social features, so bear with me.  I've been having some really late nights, but trying to get back on a normal schedule.



» Edited on: 2015-10-17 22:58:43

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Replied On: 10/18/2015 at 05:07 AM PDT

posts now edited:)



» Edited on: 2015-10-18 20:33:11

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Replied On: 10/18/2015 at 04:57 PM PDT

Please try to understand Sekk's point. This wasn't a "general" whose playing thread it was a very specific recruitment thread.  There are two posts on his recruitment thread that mention "other" guilds.  It isn't a conclusion he is jumping to - it is a fact.  He is simply asking that you not post this info here as it derails his thread.  Thank you.

No foul was intended so -  we shall leave it at that and let's move on.   Safe Journey.

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Replied On: 10/18/2015 at 08:31 PM PDT

ah I didn't see the other post my apologies, thought he was just complaining about mine.  as to mine it was late when I read the first post and after reading it again I feel deeply sorry sekk.  wasn't my intention to try and recruit anyone I thought this was a hey I got a guild on this server if anyones playing heres a nice place to go thread but after reading it again I understand your reaction.

 

I shall edit my first post to reflect this and my second as well.

 

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No worries and thank you Morigana.  I have to apologize for any confusion, because I haven't really posted clear intentions, yet.  While I've given this idea much thought over the last few years, I haven't decided to give it a test trial run until now, so some of it is just purely off the cuff for now.

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Also, I will be in Gamevox tonight, hanging out during Fog's livestream event, for anyone that has been wanting to connect with me.  Of course I'll be logged into SWTOR while I watch Fog's stream on a laptop (last day of 12x xp) so I can send guild invites for those wanting one.

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Replied On: 10/19/2015 at 12:23 PM PDT
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My hubby and I were talking about moving over to the Ebon Hawk server, and I'm pretty sure he'll be in game tonight. I'll let him know! I'm at choir tonight, so I can't log in.

 

 

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I forgot to mention, it's 90 credits to transfer a toon (cheap).  Just make sure to remove everything in Legacy storage and/or Stronghold deco.

I'll be hanging out in Gamevox more this week during the day and eves, just in case folks can't catch me.  Its honestly easier to find me there, than in game, because I have so many alts to get their starships for, right now (8 in total, because I had to reroll)

Or, and I hate to do this, but if folks don't mind adding several friends to their list (can copy paste names)

Sith:

  • Vinsek
  • Kolkot
  • Alelesa
  • Mortisdân

Republic:

  • Ayya'vrei
  • Nelissa
  • Kocco
  • Soneco

(I'll add them to top post, too)

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Replied On: 10/19/2015 at 10:23 PM PDT
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Sek,

No intention to jump your recruitment. Sorry to not be clear. I can offer info on the upcoming patch (which will be moot in a couple hours), and I can offer commentary on the extreme difficulty of running a small membership guild while trying to gather credits and parts for Strongholds or Flagships. Do your thing, let me know if you want to chat.

 

Oh, and please absolutely add me to your friends lists. I am on as Vyddi or Saull most often.



» Edited on: 2015-10-19 22:25:14

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No worries, think of this as a newly revamped Saighdear project, under my guidance, if that helps folks better understand what I am up to.

Yes, sadly a guild Flagship will be a huge P.I.T.A.  I realized that when they first implemented them and I got to read the patch notes, but I decided that I'd try it anyway by myself at the time, but then I got sidetracked by other shiny games.  I was hoping they'd ease up on the difficulties a bit with this new update, but I guess they're happy with its level of difficulty for now.

Speaking of update, the 4.0 patch notes are too long to repost in this thread, so if anyone is interested and has ~15m for reading... it's well worth it to see some of the neat changes they're making to the game:



» Edited on: 2015-10-21 04:33:49

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I rolled up a couple toons on Ebon Hawk so I can join you all.  My highest level is lvl 10, so I didn't bother transferring.  I bought the game right before it went free to play, so yeah, I paid full price :/.  Anyway, I never stuck with it.  Since it has been FOREVER since I have played, I figured I should start at square one (so to relearn the game). 

Toons:

Republic side - Xyliss 

Sith side - Naiyliss

                                                   

 

Jen

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Folks can usually find me in Gamevox during evenings (Pacific time).  Its honestly the easiest way to get in touch with me.

(updating original post w/info)

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My apologies for folks trying to find me this week, I've gotten on a weird sleep cycle where I pass out about noon and sleep until 10-11pm.  (a work+health issue)  I'm trying to get back around to a more normal schedule, so bear with me please.

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I have been a subscriber to SWTOR on Ebon Hawke for quite a while.  I have a bunch of toons on both sides.  I will look for you on your toons or on gamevox to join up with you.  My playtime is very limited right now and I am central and go to bed quite early, lol - but I will catch you at some point :)

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Replied On: 11/20/2015 at 12:10 PM PST

I'd love to get added to the GSCH guild in SWTOR on Ebon Hawk (where my toons are). I've been playing a little off and on to go through the new story (which is amazing btw!) but would like some company ;)

 

I'll try and catch you in GameVox some evening since my character names mostly have odd characters in them (when they forced us to move servers lost my original names).

 

 Edit: my Empire side fella is "Selestian".

 



» Edited on: 2015-11-20 12:26:51

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Best of luck to you all!  (Not really interested in SWTOR.)

As for the setup, again, best of luck!  I'll be looking at running a game or two every now and then under the social adventures system, although this is perhaps more involved.  I hope it works well for you!

If you are planning to revoke this with the GSCH social adventures system, it would probably be wise to note that.



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» Edited on: 2015-11-20 13:37:20

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heh yea, Fog decided that SWTOR would be one of the official GSCH SA games.  Well, at least now folks know why I've been quiet with my project and this thread.  ;)

Anyway, I am not sure about the situation for SWTOR at the moment, Fog and I have not had a chance to really talk about GSCH for this particular game.  If I had to speculate, I'm guessing that we'll be agreeing to split the factions, since I prefer (and have established) Waelwulfas on the Sith side and I believe that he prefers Republic. 

As far as who will run what, well Waelwulfas is my exclusive domain and I don't know what his plans are for who will lead the official GSCH guild for SWTOR.

Really, I just want my Flagship for WW, so having just one faction to worry about will work fine for me.

But, I just don't know right now.  I apologize, we have so much other stuff going on atm.



» Edited on: 2015-11-20 17:27:42

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I recently switched from Jedi Covenant to The Harbinger server because I wanted to be on the highest population us server. I currently play a Jedi Guardian tank named Jelasola & a Scoundrel Healer (that can also stealth) named Jelandru on The Harbinger server and have really bean enjoying the changes in 4.0 especially the much faster exp, only story missions required and switchable roles for companions. Also the numerous solable auto scaling weekly heroic missions (& flashpoints), & the auto down scaling to area max level has been quite useful too. It is like they are starting to put in some real effort into f2p viability and replayability! Hurray! ;P

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If the SWTOR GSCH Social Adventure ends up on Ebon Hawke, I guess I will have to start over on it yet again.... At least the exp is fast.



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Ahh SWTOR... I actually miss playing the game.  I'm Sith all the way and on Harbinger atm.

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I am also on Harbinger.

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"If the SWTOR GSCH Social Adventure ends up on Ebon Hawke, I guess I will have to start over on it yet again.... At least the exp is fast."

It's only 90 cartel coins for a transfer.  I was on Shadowlands, then moved my two main toons over to Ebon and deleted the low levels (I think its level 10 required to transfer.

 

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Also, I wanted to make note, that I have already bought guild banks for both of my guilds, so that's 1 million credits right there that I am not going to throw away.  Unfortunately, I was not made aware of the plans for GSCH SA project, until after I had already bought them.

I think I can name change a guild, I'm going to check into it and then get with Fog, so it's a very real possibility that I will donate Kappwulfas (Republic guild) to GSCH and then just keep Waelwulfas for Sith.

That way, GSCH will have a guild bank ASAP and can start working towards a Flagship right away.

This is very, VERY tentative though.  I can not emphasize that enough.

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Ok I have 173 Cartel points so I am going to wait and jump from Jedi Covenant or Harbinger to Ebon Hawke or whatever server. Jalura my Jedi Shadow tank on Jedi Covenant is a character of mine that I keep on coming back to and wont end up deleting. I have been having a hard time choosing which Jedi class to play....



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» Edited on: 2015-11-22 14:05:04

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I looked into some things this weekend and there's good news and blah news.

  • Good News:  You can buy a token from the Cartel Market (cash shop) to change a guild's name.
  • Blah News:  It costs 3,000 cartel coins, which IRL equals roughly $30.  Ouch.  Character and Legacy renames only cost 1,000 coins, so I was sticker shocked to see such a cash grab increase on a guild rename.

 

  • Good News:  I have just over 7,000 cartel coins banked from my subscriber auto-grants (subscribers are granted 500 coins a month)
  • Blah News:  I'm not sure that saving 500,000 credits is worth losing $30 worth of cartel coins.

 

  • Good News:  I am a subscriber and my guilds are Subscriber guilds with fully accessible Guild Banks for everyone, regardless of their status.
  • Blah News:  I'm pretty sure that Fog will use a Free-To-Play account, so the guild that he leads will have to be Free-To-Play.  I don't believe I can transfer leadership of a Subscriber guild to a Free-To-Play account.  Even if I can, it's status will change from a Subscriber guild to a Free-To-Play guild, because the type of guild depends on the guild leader's account.  So that makes another strike against the guild rename idea.
  • More Blah News:  Free-To-Play guild have some restrictions (of course) and every member will need to buy Cartel Market items in order to use some guild features (mainly access to the guild bank), regardless of their account status.  That is per Character, too.
  • Even More Blah News:  Guild leadership can automatically change between guild members, based on the current leader's log-in dates.  If the guild leader character does not log in for 4 weeks, the leadership automatically changes to the highest ranked Subscriber, which if I understand correctly, turns a Free-To-Play into a Subscriber guild, but also vice-versa... and of course, its all Character, not Account. 

(I actually lost control of one of my guilds (a while back, on another server), because I didn't play the guild leader character as my main, I played another and it automatically switched to another player who rarely logged in and demoted my character to Member.  Its a goofy system that I still don't totally understand, even after playing with it for a few years and constantly reading on it.)

 

  • Just The Way It Is:  SWTOR is not actually a "Free-To-Play" game, at least not literally or like most other Free-To-Play games.  Yes, it provides a very basic "Free-To-Play" experience, but access to features that make the game more enjoyable, will require spending money, either via a flat monthly subscription (which honestly is just the easiest and cheapest way) or by buying character unlocks from the Cartel Market (Character... not Account).

 

Leave it to EA and Bioware to take something as simple as a guild system and make it complicated.



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I changed the title of this thread, since some folks have it confused with the new GSCH Social Adventure project.  I'd started this thread before I knew about the Social Adventure plans.

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Hmm I have a swotor acct with a bunch of 50's on both sides. I was thinking of popping in since my son wants to play here in a month. Maybe i'll see about jumping over to ebon hawk.

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Well I was happy when they announced SWTOR changing into free-to-play, but was very sad when I saw limitations on f2p account vs subscribed account. For example if you like to do dungeons (flashpoints) then you have weekly cap on rewards. Dont know how much, there is one. To overcome this, you can buy weekly pass, but they cost so much that if you get 2 x weekly pass then it will cost so much that it is better to subscribe. Also f2p account has money cap and that will cause problems trying to get some things. 

So in my eyes SWTOR is sort of f2p, but if you want to get best experience, you need to subscribe. 

Subscription has always been big no-no to me. It compels you to play more, because you are paying for it. Of course I like to support games which I like, but I rather support getting cosmetic items from store etc. 

However I have been thinking time to time installing SWTOR again.

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I've decided that I am keeping my Waelwulfas (sith) and Kappwulfas (republic) guilds open.  I have goals that I've wanted to accomplish since Launch, not to mention time and money already invested, so that's important to me.

I encourage folks to join the GSCH Social Adventures guild, but I will be keeping my doors open to anyone who wants to play in both.

 

Also, if folks wish to discuss GSCH Social Adventures, please use another thread so that people don't get confused.



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Replied On: 11/28/2015 at 08:17 PM PST

I have been thinking about trying SWTOR again.  I don't remember what server(s) I am on.  I will check it out and see what it takes to move.

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Replied On: 11/29/2015 at 01:28 AM PST

I moved my toons to Ebon Hawk.  Whew!  took awhile to clear my legacy bank.

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Oh well it seems it isn't possible to transfer characters between EU and NA, so I have to start at level 1 :)

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I'm not sure that EA publishes SWTOR in EU, but its definitely different datacenters.  Even the NA servers have two datacenters, one on East coast and one on West coast (which is why I origined on Berg Colony).  It used to not be possible to transfer between West coast server and East coast server, even when they did the merger a couple of years ago. 

Luckily, it was recently made possible (in just this last year, afaik, but not sure, it may have been since they went F2P), but I'm not surprised that it's still not possible between EU and NA.  They probably have different cash shops and stuff that don't make it possible.

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Replied On: 12/04/2015 at 10:00 PM PST

Actually, the Gaiscioch presence is very small.  I am thinking about moving to a West Coast server.

I am enjoying the new story line so far.  

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GSCH presence is going to be very small in most any game outside of Guild Wars or Elder Scrolls. 

We're doing these guilds so that GSCH family members can connect more easily with each other, if and when they want to play some of these games.  We don't really do them to create large and thriving communities.

These guilds in SWTOR are my own personal guilds, that I opened up to the family so that they can connect. 

I think that Fog will have an official GSCH Social Adventures guild coming in January.



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Replied On: 12/06/2015 at 04:38 PM PST

Hi Sekk,

I understand, and I didn't mean to imply anything.  I appreciate you making your guilds available to the family.  At the moment I am spending most of my game playing time in SWTOR, so I am pretty needy in game.

Sincerely,

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No worries.  I just realized that some folks might get confused by the thread, so I wanted to make the situation clear to anyone reading.

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